Thursday, July 26, 2012

Discussion: The Right To Bear Arms


Normally I like to keep things light around here, but something’s been bugging me.
Since the tragedy in Colorado, everyone’s been talking about our right to bear arms in the Constitution.
Some people feel the gun laws should be relaxed or remain the same, and others feel they should be tightened.
Americans have been granted the right to bear arms in 1971 since the original creation of The Bill of Rights. 

With the presidential election around the corner and all this gun laws talk, I’ve been thinking.
Where exactly do I stand when it comes to the right to bear arms? 

I know that I hate guns and I hate all violence.
What I don’t know is whether or not I think our natural right should be taken away from us.
I also know that a gun free or violent free world is near impossible and very impractical.

That’s when I reached out to a few family members, friends, and co-workers.
I asked them whether they felt the firearms laws should be relaxed, tightened, or remain the same.
These are people whose opinions I highly respect.  They will remain anonymous to avoid potential slander.

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I think that gun restrictions should become more strict after the shooting in Colorado.  I think that right now they don't do enough background checks or monitor gun purchases closely enough.  I also think that they should monitor people's purchases online as well.  From what I had heard, the shooter in Colorado had also purchased significant amounts of ammunition as well as items used for explosives online with no problems.  It's kind of scary that you can just do that without having anyone investigate it when purchased in excessive amounts.
Female, 21 Years 

I have the right to bear arms and I have the right to defend myself.  If someone in that audience had a gun who knows how many innocent lives would have been saved.  Law abiding citizens should have a means to protect themselves from the people who snap.
Male, 49 Years 

The process of acquiring a firearm license and then being able to buy a gun is far too easy.  For one thing, the age limitation is younger than that of purchasing alcohol.  The age should be hiked up and the background checks on people should be far more extensive to eliminate instances like these.  More restrictions should be put in place.  The right to bear arms was created in a time when minute men needed to be readily called on to defend our new found freedom.  Those times have long since vanished and there should be greater restrictions established.
Male, 20 Years 

I believe that all law abiding Americans should have the right to bear arms.  Whether we have strict or relaxed gun laws, criminals will get guns.  In the end law abiding citizens are the ones who will get hurt because they have no means to protect themselves.
Male, 33 Years 

Definitely think the restrictions should be tighter. The killer obtained several weapons from different sources.  You would think in this day and age of technological advances, there should be a way to link and track multiple purchases which would raise a red flag that this was not a stable person and that something destructive was planned.
Female, 44 Years 

Gun laws should be tightened and very limited.  Nothing good comes from guns or a household with them.
Female, 35 Years 

Do u think criminals care about the law?  Leave our right to bear arms alone.
Male, 23 Years 

Gun restrictions should definitely be made tighter, especially in NYC, given that a 4 year old boy was just shot at a park in the Bronx.  Too easy to get weapons for sure!
Female, 45 Years 

The right to bear arms is a privilege.  The government should extend that privilege to screened and qualified individuals.  Gun control is the answer.  The sale of weapons and ammunition should be more closely monitored giving close attention to quantity.  The distributor/seller should hold some responsibility to investigate the buyer's intention.
Female, 49 Years 

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After listening to everyone’s opinions and doing my own personal research, I came to a conclusion. 

I do not think our right to bear arms should be taken away nor restricted.
Ok, hear me out before you bash poor Jax in the comments!!!

I think that no matter what the laws say a criminal will still gain possession of whatever they desire.
I mean, a man who has no care for another man’s life is really not going to have a care about a law!
That being said, a law abiding, mentally stable citizen should have the right to carry a firearm for defense.
These lax firearm laws are a means to defense and a preventative measure.
People are far less likely to open fire when they know someone can open fire right back.
A wise man once said “A man will not hunt when they know they can be hunted back”. 

Do you think firearm laws should be tightened, relaxed, or remain the same?


***Remember, this is a JUDGE FREE ZONE!  We are all entitled to our opinion so please be respectful.***

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  1. I think that guns should be controlled.

    To be frank with you, half of crimes will fall if we only restrict the use of guns.

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    1. Guns are controlled. I think that the gun distributors need to take responsibility now. They need to monitor who they are giving guns too and how many. There can only be so much done to restrict the purchases of firearms. All it will do in the end is make it harder for sane, law abiding citizens to get one. The criminals will not be stopped.

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  2. Being married to a big ol' redneck, we got tons of guns. My hubby is a big hunter, my daddy was a big hunter and my kids like to go huntin' and shootin'. However, I do think there needs to be some sort of restrictions when one person is buying firearms from different sources. That should be a red flag and that person should be investigated. I mean seriously, if there are already laws in place for people shopping at different pharmacies for prescription drugs, there should certainly be the same laws in place for firearms.

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    1. Oh dear lord...my family is full of hunters too! Don't take that away from then because then they'll be around for far more dinners. LOL I kid, I kid.

      I totally agree with you girl! Well put!!

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  3. Wackos will find a way to accomplish what they want to do with, or without guns. Criminals mostly have stolen guns anyway so the restrictions don't matter to them. I agree with the comment above, that if some law abiding citizen in the audience would have had a gun, it could have helped, but it was probably too hard for that guy to get one.

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    1. Exactly. If they don't have a care for another human's life they will certainly not have a care for a law. In other states (particularly the south I've heard) it's very common for people to have concealed weapons permit. I think more people should consider exercising their right as means of defense and preventative measure. My family in Florida has long considered this and made the change years ago.

      As a southener, Barfly, do you see a difference in the amount of people exercising their right to carry?

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    2. Jax, I'm what you call bi-coastal having grown up in San Diego, CA and then relocating to Georgia in my early 20s. In California where the gun laws were much more rigid, it seemed the majority of the people who had guns were the gang bangers or banger wanna bees. The typical home did not have a gun and the gun violence was such a topic. However, in the region I live in in Georgia almost all households have guns (plural). I myself maintain a concealed weapons permit and a pistol on my person at times when I'm traveling or going to unknown destinations. Its a common sight to see gun racks in trucks holding shotguns and/or rifles, and handguns are not seen as an item to instantly fear. Funny thing is that the senseless gun violence in this region is practically non-existent. Guns are used for their intended purpose...to hunt and to defend. I think that says alot.

      You wanna see the gun violence escalate? Tell these citizens they lose their rights to bear arms. I believe there'd be some militias forming in these here woods.

      Criminals don't want to get their guns through legal channels because they can be traced back to them. The only ones being stopped by tightening gun control laws are the law abiding citizens.

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    3. Blondie, if I could, I would stand up and bow to you for that!

      "Funny thing is that the senseless gun violence in this region is practically non-existent. Guns are used for their intended purpose...to hunt and to defend. I think that says alot."

      You said it all right there!

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  4. I vote to keep them legal, but have tighter restrictions on obtaining them.

    Even though guns are fairly easy to obtain legally at this time, in the mass murder situations that have happened, no one else had a gun and was able to stop the shooter(s). The majority of the population does not have and carry guns and that isn't likely to change, no matter how lax the restrictions.

    Tightening restrictions would only make it harder for the 'bad guys' to get guns, and I'm all for making it harder on the bad guys. Law abiding citizens would still be able to get their guns after going through the process so I don't see the problem.

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    1. I think that more people should exercise their right. Owning a weapon does not mean that you need to use, but exercising your right may help guarantee that it won't be taken away. I also feel that when you are prepared to defend yourself then bad things don't seem to happen. It's like when you remember to bring your umbrella and it doesn't rain. The only time it rains is when you left your umbrella home.

      I don't think it would make anything harder on bad buys. Most bad guys are obtaining their guns through illegal means. It would only make things harder on law abiding citizens.

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    2. By the way, I liked how you laid it all out in your post!

      James Holmes got his guns legally from gun shops, not through illegal means, as far as I understand. I know that is just one case, and it probably wouldn't have stopped him if it had been harder, but you never know.

      I would never excercise my right to own a gun, just saying :) I wouldn't take that right from anyone else, but it's not for me.

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    3. Thanks, Kianwi! I tried to make it as judgement free as possible. It's important for people to talk about these things because that's how we learn. Some people judge others during those disucssions. The issue with that is no one is wrong or right. It's just their opinion...but they should be able to make an educated one. :)

      Yes, criminals do get their guns legally too. Many gets there's illegally as well. It's a toss up.

      I'm not sure if I would ever exercise my right either. When it comes down to it, would I rather be shot or live with the fact that I shot someone else? Well, it's completely different when a third party is getting shot. I think people naturally want to defend others. I'm going to stop there because I'm not looking to put that negative energy out there! lol

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  5. Ok. Think about most (I said most) crimes are committed with unregistered and/or stolen guns. Responsible gun owners typically are not the ones going out on shooting sprees. That nut in Colorado is not what I would consider to be responsible. He was on a mission to kill people. Perhaps there should be a psychological examination and a class prior to one being able to purchase a fire arm. There has to be a way to improve upon the current system of checking. But, but no means should our right to purchase guns be taken away. As soon as that is gone it is just a matter of time before other rights are taken from us.

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    1. And oh...let's say there is a mandatory recall on all guns - who do you think will be turning them in? The responsible gun owners. Certainly not the criminals with illegal guns!

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    2. I 100% agree with you, Melanie!! I agree right down to the course. We have to take a course on driving safety, but no course is required on firearms safety? That's not right either. I don't think that restrictions should become tigheter, but I do think they should be changed. How aobut lowering the liscensing fees to make a safety class more affordable for the average citizen?

      ...and what exactly would a mandatory recall on guns do?? lol That's a joke and a half!! You can't recall a gun that you don't know criminals have in the first place!! Great point!

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    3. Education is NEVER a bad thing. You're right...lower fees for the instruction would make it more of a possibility for more people. And the more educated people are about anything, the better choices they can make (ideally).

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    4. I agree. Education can never be bad. The more educated the people are, the better decision they can make. That goes with anything. Well said!

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    5. Every once in a while, I make a little sense!! =D

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  6. Gun control is using both hands.

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    1. ...well, I think it's obvious where you stand, Bama!!

      So since you're a southener...how do you compare gun control down there? Do you think more people are exercising their right to obtain a concealed weapon?? I wonder what the crime difference is... I don't think enough people up here exercise their right..well, except for the criminals and thugs. They love to exercise their right!

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    2. As another southerner, I would like to address that question. I live in spartanburg sc a very conservative county in the heart of the bible belt. We rank 6 in gun violence, a far worse rate than NY. Somebody gets killed here at least once a week. Gun shops are every corner. Our shrieff urged people to get cwps and this resulted in one man killing 2 guys breaking into his car, and one lady was shot in a training course led by a offduty deputy.

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    3. Valid point, Adam! Do you think it's the area you live in (high crime rate) or do you think it's the gun laws contributing to that? In an area where the crime rate is so high, wouldn't you feel safer with a defensive weapon on you? Also, how do you feel your local police force is when it comes to effectively protecting it's people? I think encouraging civilians to get a weapon as a means to protect themselves shows that there they may be a fault in your city's crime fighters.

      This is all so interesting! Thanks for sharing with us.

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    4. I blame centuries of crappy southern politics and policies. We have a group that "keeps to their guns and their bibles" running our state government for ages, and we wonder why we are almost always ranked worst in everything. There's almost no such thing as a gun law here, I could go to Ace Academy Sports right now, and purchase their whole gun collection (assuming I had enough capital) and be back home in maybe 2 hours. Maybe a little longer depending on how fast the clerks are scanning and bagging merchandise.

      We really have to kill guns at the source. Firearms is a huge business, and gun control is not good for their business. They are controlling governments just as much as oil companies and other venues are. When they can mass produce weapons by the truckload, it's quite easy for them to wind up on the black market. Gun control works just not for them. In Japan, it's quite rare for an ordinary man to get a firearm (it most of their tv shows/media, a common thug is carrying a knife not a gun in a robbery), and only Yakuza can get their hands on real firepower. The average bad guy, not so much.

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    5. Jax - Everyone I know has guns. Have any of them killed anyone. Yes. He served in Iraq and Afganistan. Have any of them killed here. No. I have had two friends gunned down in Birmingham in my life. I still believe in guns.

      ”To prohibit a citizen from wearing or carrying a war arm . . . is an unwarranted restriction upon the constitutional right to keep and bear arms. If cowardly and dishonorable men sometimes shoot unarmed men with army pistols or guns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary and gallows, and not by a general deprivation of constitutional privilege.”
      ~Wilson v. State

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    6. Thanks, Bama. That's very well put! I'm learing quite a bit from this :)

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  7. Personally, I have always felt that the only guns that should be legal to own, are guns one would use either for hunting, or for self defense. Background checks for gun owners, and waiting periods are essential. Anyone who carries a gun illegally, or uses a gun while committing a crime, should be severely punished. I think those are just common sense things to do.

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    1. I agree. Everything you listed is a common sense thing to do. I also agree with Melanie's point that safety classes to educated carriers on guns should be mandatory as well.

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  8. The biggest case against no gun control are its adherents. Case in point, Colorado had pretty lax and conservative gun laws and this guy legally purchased guns and armor to make himself quite the assassin. A cwp would have done nothing but cause an accident death. You cant really shoot a dark gunman in a smoke filled room with choas and people running everywhere with accuracy.

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    1. I agree that he couldn't have been accurate. I also agree that certain guns like a machine gun should be completely illegal. Unless there is a zombie break out, why would an everday citizen need such a thing? Either way, I do think that more people should exercise their concealed weapons rights. Accurate or not, if he saw someone firing back maybe he would have hesitated or who knows what would happen. Successful or not, it's a better chance of survival than being a sitting duck.

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    2. for yourself maybe, but another shooter in the room would be more likely to hit someone else in the crowd my mistake. Playing possum would probably be a better strategy in a situation like that

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  9. The blame is not with the guns, only the people who have them. There is no way of knowing who will do what once they have a gun. A perfect law abiding citizen who has guns may one day snap and go on a killing spree. I don't think there is much that can be done to prevent shootings such as this one.

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    1. I agree with what you say, but I also thing that if more people had means of protecting themselves there would be less crime out there. In a strange way, that's a preventative measure. Unless the person that snapped is suicidal on top of being crazy, he may have stepped back knowing that a whole bunch of people will be firing back. He may have been comfortable doing such a thing simply because he knew there would be no threat to him.

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  10. absolutely the gun laws should be tightened. these kind of travesties happen... really... only in america. there is no reason why a person should be able to own an assault weapon.

    on a lighter note, hope you're having a great week so far, j. :)

    xoxo,
    jasmine
    ADAM ❤ ALEX

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    1. While I disagree, I can totally see your point!! In a perfect world, guns wouldn't exist nor would violence. We could only pray...

      Hope you're having a lovely week as well!! xo

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  11. I'm from Texas and I think everyone here has guns. Those people I know who have them are trained in gun safety and are responsible people. That being said, there are many more who are not and accidents or tragic events like Colorado happen all too often. I believe the root of it does not come down to guns but who takes responsibility for those people. Does the government take responsibility of those who are unstable or crazed when society gives up? And does that translate into tighter gun control laws in this case? I'm not sure and there's no easy answer to this one

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    1. Yes, it appears in the south there are more guns. In NY, I am the minority in my view as you can see from the above quotes. Those are all from NYers. I agree, it's not the guns, it's the people! Well said Rooth and thanks for participating :)

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  12. Dear Jax the guns maybe are controlled but really my honestly opinion in USA is SO easy buy guns and of course in the world are many crazy people:(
    Here now a lot buy arms to protec them an their family but many times have accidents especially kids; in house we dont have any gun.

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    1. It's a scary thing to think of kids in the house with guns. I grew up with guns in the house, but they were never discussed and as a child we never thought about them. I think as long as safety precautions have been handled, then there should be no problem. The issue isn't the guns when accidents happen. I think the issue is the laziness or carelessness of the gun holders.

      No one mentioned this yet!! Thanks for bringing something new to the discussion :) You know I always love hearing from you!! (Even if you try to scare me away with strawberries. hahaha)

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    2. Jax seriously a lot of accidents with arms here were with arms in their house the kids saw many movies and TV and think is NORMAL use a gun thats the problem but is terrible.
      Years ago here people dont have guns in their house but now I know a lot have them!
      Never I wanna scare you dear LOL
      The next recipe (Im making) you will like LOL

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    3. As long as you aren't scaring me on purpose :) :) LOL Ohh, something I will like? Yum yum!!

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  13. I don't think they should be taken away unless guns are destroyed all over the planet and since that is never going to happen, people should be allowed to defend themselves. But being able to buy a sniper rifle or automatic weapon is stupid. That is beyond excessive. Also that part about being able to defend themselves depends on the person, if it's just some idiot with a gun, there will be more death and in a smoke filled theater with chaos, not very easy to defend yourself for the average person, they'd go off the rails and just start firing, shooting more people. Plus nut jobs don't think rationally, so that saying about being afraid of getting shot, doesn't really apply, as they aren't afriad, they only have the one thing going through their mind, when they snap they snap.

    Also if gun laws were tightened, then the criminals would love it, that just means better business, as more people would buy illegal arms. There is always going to be a way to get one, unless they are wiped from existence, which isn't possible. So they may need to be tightened a bit more but that is it.

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    1. Yes, guns will never be eliminated throughout the world. It's just impractical. I also agree that an automatic weapon should be illegal! Although, it's very easy to turn certain guns into automatic on your own. There are many criminals here that do just that. Scary thoughts, no??

      I do have to disagree with one thing you said. Not all killers/nut jobs/murderers are sucidial. Many still do have some regard for their own life. If their own life was threatened, they may think twice before doing something. I'm not saying all of these people, but defintiely a majority. There's a reason why crime is lower in areas where it is commonly accepted for people to carry guns.

      Oh, yea criminals would love tightened gun laws!!

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    2. Yeah I suppose there are many whack jobs who don't want to go out in a blaze of glory, they would rather live and get the fame, so that is true too.

      Yeah guns are already the second highest illegal traded thing after drugs and before humans, so with tightened gun laws they'd be that much more traded and such. Always a plus and negative to everything.

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    3. Right! Many people want to soak in their new found fame. They want to go down and history and be remembered. It makes me think that maybe the media shouldn't cover stories like these. If the stories didn't get any attention and these criminals never made a name for themselves, would the purpose of doing it still be there?

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  14. Over here guns are severely restricted and that works great most of the time. But even then we have still had the occasional member of a gun club wigging out and going on a killing spree. Despite that I'm glad that guns are so strictly controlled over here. There is no gun control at all in places like Afghanistan and look what a shit hole that is.

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    1. There's a valid point. I'm all for gun control. Things should be monitored and people should be screened...but, in my opion, the right should never be taken away.

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  15. I do not condone or like violence, but I love shooting guns.

    I also believe the problem isn't as simple as banning guns. It's creating family programs and support systems so that we raise people who think that violence is a sign of weakness, not power. Until we can do that this country will continue to have these issues.

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    1. I totally agree with you, girl! Guns never cause an issue, it's the people that use them that need the help. Great point...violence is a sign of weakness. We live in a society where the more violent you are, the cooler you are. It's double standards. Sigh...

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  16. Guns scare me! I've never shot one.

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  17. Jax, this whole subject makes my head hurt. Like you, I grew up in the tri-state area, so you can guess what my opinion would be. I don't want a gun, I don't need a gun, and I hope I'm never anywhere near one. I wouldn't say I'm a big supporter of our Constitutional right to bear arms, but I'm not against it, either. It is what it is. But I do know that our founding fathers had something a lot more important in mind when they wrote the second amendment: defending our country and our property from British attack. And who's attacking us now? Who's infringing on our right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness? Americans with guns.

    It sickens me that we as a nation see something as horrific as the Colorado massacre, or Virginia Tech, or Columbine, and accept it as a price of freedom. I don't think we should overreact but I think there should be some sort of reaction. You can do all the background checks you want, but apparently this James Holmes asshole had no prior record. There's no certain way to tell who is a legal and responsible gun owner, and who is the next mass murderer. Ban these automatic assault weapons, or limit the number of guns a person can have. Or do what Chris Rock suggests: make each bullet cost $100,000.

    The common defense for gun owners is that if everyone had a gun no one would use it. We've used that argument for nuclear warheads as well. But now Iran wants one, and we don't trust them. See my point?

    Gun owners don't trust the US government. But the US government never opened fire in a crowded movie theater, or school, or public square. And even if you're one of those paranoid people that think Obama's army is coming to get you, know this: if the government really wanted to declare war on your family there is no weapon you could acquire over the internet that would save you. We have the greatest stockpile of deadly weapons in the world, and we don't use a fraction of it -- even on our enemies.


    You have every right to protect your family and your property or hunt whatever animal you prefer, and no one has even attempted to take that away. Calling for "violence reduction" is NOT Obama speak for "I'm taking away your freedom" no matter what the NRA says. And while we're at it, if the Government was so powerful, how come both parties are scared to death of the NRA?

    Because they have all the guns. Duh.

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    1. Wow, I can see why your head hurts. You thought very far out of the box with this one ;) I kid, I kid!

      I have to disagree with one thing you said. People seeing those tragedies as a price of freedom... Our freedoms had nothing to do with those tragedies. If a person is sick enough to want to do such a thing, do you think the laws would prevent them from doing so? They would illegally purchase a firearm or create weapons of their own. There is no way of stopping or preventing the actions of a disturbed individual. Their actions are the only thing that would threaten people's freedoms.

      How can you say that gun owners don't trust the US goverment? That's a type of stereotype. I know several gun owners (my family included) that very much do trust the government and love our country. Sure there are a few that are conspiracy theorists, but you can't say every gun owner thinks such a thing because it simply isn't true.

      I think that you are generalizing people who support the right to bear arms the way that others would generalize certain cultures.

      I respect your opinion, but I'm going to have to disagree. I did learn from what you said though. It's amazing what people can absorb when bouncing opinions off of each other.

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    2. You're right Jax, I did make a few broad generalizations there, but I can only speak from personal experience. I think that there is a common belief among gun owners that this administration is trying to take their 2nd amendment rights away, even though there's no evidence to support that. I'm glad that not everyone who owns a gun subscribes to that belief. And I'll be honest -- it's unfair to responsible, law-abiding gun owners when something like this happens and the knee-jerk reaction is to make everyone pay.

      What I meant by 'price of freedom' is that a) he acquired all those weapons legally (and if he didn't, others have) and b) if we accept the status quo, we accept that these things will happen. You're right, laws aren't going to stop every criminal from committing every crime, but if stricter gun control laws save even one life, that's one more than we save by doing nothing. That's all I'm saying.


      I've learned something from your response to my comment, and even though this post made me squirm I'm glad you brought it up. We should all strive to be so civilized and open-minded :-)

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  18. Your response to the very first comment is pretty much the way I feel about it, Jax. That was very well said, and I agree.

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    1. Thanks, Ray!! :) It is about time that the distributors take responsibility!

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  19. I believe totally in our rights. Even if someone is spreading hate speech. With that said, I want you to think about this...if people think stricter gun controls will help prevent shooting sprees, then why aren't criminals following the laws? It's not about the laws - it is about enforcing the laws.

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    1. I totally agree with you. Like I said above...if a person has no care for another person's life they certainly are not going to have a care for a law. It's very simple.

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  20. So what's the reason of being able to buy automatic assault weapons? Have to door breach a deer stronghold?

    In Australia, the gun laws are quite strict. Not only do you have to be licensed, you have to be part of a licensed club, you have to keep your gun locked up in two pieces in two separate locations of the house and bullets kept separate. Police do random drop ins to check (friend of mine just got inspected).

    A person firing back in that theatre would have caused injuries. They would be untrained, unprepared, panicked, and not doing a whole lot of help. If the police storm in, they would take down both. That's not helping.

    The problem stems from more than gun control, you should keep your right to bear arms, but take a look at the system, what you can acquire, etc. The problem is something a little deeper, I feel the shooting is merely a symptom of a larger problem. Gun control is not going to stop it, and only slow it slightly. What is making these people snap and believing that horrific violence was the answer?

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  21. I wouldn't mind the idea of people having to pass a sanity test to own any sort of weapon (or reproduce) but I also believe in free rights, understand that psychopaths seem normal and could pass the test, and know that you can easily get anything you want by paying the right price. So I guess I want the laws to stay the same.

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  22. I love your discussions! I don't think owning guns are bad, but I do know that the current system is seriously flawed.

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  23. I agree with you...I don't want to take away anyone's rights but the system needs to be completely overhauled. Look at the headline today for the crazy guy calling himself The Joker. That guy was arrested 10 minutes from my home. A guy with a shirt on that read "Guns don't kill people, I do".
    It all makes my head, heart and belly hurt.

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  24. An interesting discussion. It might be worth noting that when the Second Amendment was adopted, many of our nation's citizens lived on farms or as trappers. They used their guns constantly to hunt for food, kill wild animals (and sometimes shoot their own livestock) etc. They also needed their guns to fend off Indian attacks (and sometimes their own neighbors, a la the Hatfields and the McCoys). In some states (and perhaps all states), men of a certain age could be pressed into service at any time to help their states (the state militias). They needed to bring their own guns. Those conditions no longer exist.

    On the flip side, if we ban the selling of new guns, we'd still have to contend with the millions of guns that already exist. Hence, a ban on guns might not do anything to lower the death/injury rates in the U.S. What is more, with a population over 300 million people, statistics would dictate that our country has a few "crazy" people who have both the knowledge and the motivation necessary to kill massive numbers of people.

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  26. hesitate to respond to this post, but I feel I need to chime in here. I am a gun owner. I live in California. It is not easy to buy a gun. You need to take a test and learn the laws. You have to go through a waiting period and a background check. You also have to go through a safety function test to prove you know how to safely operate the pistol. I agree with making it difficult for people to buy guns, because people should be doing it for the right reasons.

    I think that what it is important to note here is that buying illegal guns does not seem to be difficult. If the bad people want to buy guns, they will find a way. Drugs are illegal, and look at how well that war is turning out.

    I was terrified of guns before I ever shot one. I would walk into a gun store and be afraid that every gun in the counter was accidentally going to go off an shoot me. I was under-educated and happy that way. My husband had been shooting (as a hobby) forever, and encouraged me to give it a try. I did. I went to the gun range and held a gun. I fired it. I cried. It was an emotional experience.

    Since then, I have had a lot of experience with guns. I now shoot as a hobby. We do not hunt. We only shoot at targets. I consider it to be a sport (it is an Olympic event). It is also a bit empowering.

    I would encourage people to educate themselves about guns before forming a strong opinion. I would argue that taking away our right to bear arms would simply take away our right to defend ourselves if ever needed, and give all of the power to the criminals, who will have guns no matter what.

    *Erin

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  27. I have read very few of the 66 comments... I would like to add that one thing that is missing in our society today is respect towards others.... kindness.

    I have been around firearms just about my entire life. I was trained by my Dad to respect firearms and understand the damage they can do. I am probably among the minority of you all who have actually seen someone shot and killed. It was a life changing moment for me.

    We have a music culture that embraces violence, murder, rape, sex abuse, ect etc etc. We become jaded to what can really happen.

    Holywood, as liberal as they are today, show all kinds of gun violence in their movies. Think about the number of murders, and shots fired in a movie like 'Scar Face.'

    I've even read that the movie murder/shooting scene in the new Batman movie was replicated by the gunman. Of course, if this was on premier night, how did the shooter/killer know about what was in the movie?

    Maybe it's all shown in the movie trailers.

    We have become a mean and cruel society.

    ~shoes~

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  28. I unfortunately think we need to make things tighter. I'm sorry but having access to certain types of guns whose only purpose is to kill other people is insane. It's one thing to have a gun to hunt or because it is required for your job but obviously we're doing something wrong.

    We need to lessen access to guns and makes laws on guns tighter.

    I don't like the idea of taking away people's freedom but something is very wrong in this country. And that's so sad.

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  29. I like shooting guns, though at a gun range. I shot a nine milimetre, their much heavier than i thought and very loud but very fun.In England guns are very restricted,you need a licence, and you have to submit and i.d , have no criminal record and its quite expensive. I think the licence is hundreds of pounds. And if you want to keep the weapon in your home (the choice of weapon is very restricted) the police come and do a visual check of your home to see if you have the strict safety cabinet with all the locks and things. It takes months, and im fairly sure you have to have a reccomendation from a gun club.We can't even buy knives now, you can buy kitchen knives but you have to be over 18, and things like pen knives , their all off the shelves now you can't see them, even in specialist stores like camping shops. You can buy multi tools, but...its a tiny blade.

    I must say despite what the Murdoch tabloids say, England has very low crime, and we only have about 260 murders a year out of a population of 60 million that's pretty good. And most of those murders are inter familial and involve domestic abuse and alcohol.
    I do know that if James Holmes were English he would have found it hard to get his hands on weapons, particularly semi automatic ones. He would have had to go to the criminals to get them,and their all monitored by the cops. I cannot see America restricting gun use, too many people love their guns over there.

    This is the longest i typed on your blog, your really making everyone think with this post.

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  30. I don't like guns, which is why I don't own one. What I believe and practice works for me, and I certainly don't expect anyone to feel comfortable applying my ideals into their life. Leave gun laws as they are, I say.

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  31. First of all, Cool blog! you got a new follower!

    And secondly: Guns. I believe that we all have the right to defend ourselves when the time comes. A criminal isn't going to care about the law and figure out how to acquire one anyways.

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